The r/fragrance community views Encre Noire as an excellent value niche fragrance with distinctive character, praised for its woody, cypress-driven composition and quality at its price point. However, it's highly polarizing due to its dark, dry, and uncompromising nature that appeals primarily to fragrance enthusiasts rather than mass audiences. The flankers (Sport and A L'Extreme) offer more wearable alternatives while the original remains the most character-driven option.
Positive
Excellent value for money, niche quality at affordable price
Distinctive, artistic scent with unique character (woody, cypress, vetiver-forward)
Good performance and longevity when applied correctly
Well-made fragrance with quality presentation from Lalique house
Negative
Very polarizing - not a crowd-pleaser, extremely specific/niche appeal
Frequently asked questions
What's the difference between Hai Karate and Encre Noire?+
Hai Karate is a masculine fragrance (marketed to men, though wearable by all) from Pfizer (1967) dominated by its signature accords. Encre Noire is a masculine fragrance (marketed to men, though wearable by all) from Lalique (2006) leaning on Woody accords. They share no primary accords — distinctly different profiles.
By community rating, Hai Karate scores 4.12/5 vs Encre Noire at 4.15/5. Encre Noire's standout strength: Excellent value for money, niche quality at affordable price. The "better" choice depends on what you value — longevity, projection, season fit, or signature character.
Do Hai Karate and Encre Noire smell similar?+
They share a small fraction of their ingredients — expect noticeably different experiences. Encre Noire: The r/fragrance community views Encre Noire as an excellent value niche fragrance with distinctive character, praised for its woody, cypress-driven composition and quality at its price point.
Which lasts longer, Hai Karate or Encre Noire?+
Encre Noire: Good performance and longevity when applied correctly Longevity varies by skin chemistry, concentration, and application method.
Which season suits Hai Karate vs Encre Noire?+
Hai Karate scores highest for fall wear; Encre Noire scores highest for fall wear. Hai Karate leans daytime, Encre Noire leans evening.
Dry and intense opening that some find off-putting or strange
Not suitable for those seeking sweet or mainstream fragrances
Requires proper application amount or can experience noseblindness issues
