Ma Griffe vs Shalimar Parfum Initial

Ma Griffe by Carven is widely recognized by the r/fragrance community as a quintessential vintage chypre and an important foundational fragrance in the genre. The community holds it in high regard as a classic example of 20th-century chypre perfumery that carries significant nostalgic and emotional value for many wearers, though vintage bottles are preferred over modern formulations.

Shalimar Parfum Initial was a beloved fragrance that has been discontinued, leaving collectors disappointed and unable to repurchase. While the reformulated successor L'Initial is quite close, community members note it lacks the distinctive powdery quality of the original, making it a solid but imperfect alternative for those who cherish the discontinued version.